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Police Say No Arrests Yet in Shooting, Still Under Investigation

No arrests have been made nor any suspects publicly identified in Thursday's night shooting on Washington Street. Police do not believe it was not a random act.

Details are still scant on what might have instigated the shooting at a Washington Street apartment Thursday night.

Peabody Police spokesman Michael Crane released an official statement late Friday morning, saying the incident is still under investigation by local police and state police detectives assigned to the district attorney's office.

Crane said no arrests have been made and confirmed that police believe the shooting was not a random act of violence.

Crane said officers arrived at Apt. #3 of 197 Washington St. at approximately 8:55 p.m. Thursday to investigate a report of gunshots. The apartment is above D'Orsi's Bakery & Delicatessen.

One male victim, who was suffering from an apparent gunshot wound to his thigh, was treated at the scene and taken to Mass. General Hospital by ambulance.

Crane confirmed that the injury did not appear to be life-threatening.

Police said Thursday night they were searching for another male to bring in for questioning on the incident, but no mention was made of that person in Friday's statement.

mark coan January 04, 2013 at 10:15 PM
If D'Orsi's hired A armed guard this would not happen!
Sean Ward January 04, 2013 at 11:59 PM
You're right, nobody ever injured or killed eachother before guns. Damn things.
Johnny V January 05, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Guns allow for mass killings. Not many people go on killing sprees with a knife. Guns allow anonymous killing. You have a much better chance of defending yourself if someone comes at you with a bat than a bullet coming at you from 20 yards (or even 6 feet) away. You may love guns Sean Ward, but no reasonable person can deny the facts stated above.
Sean Ward January 05, 2013 at 01:17 AM
I actually do not love guns at all. In fact I hate them. They are one of the most abhorent inventions ever imagined by mankind. However, people were mass murdering and injuring eachother with other weapons way before guns and still are. Jack the Ripper killed as many as a dozen with knives. Jeff Dahmer didn't use guns to kill 17 people. His fellow inmate beat him to death bare handed. This kid got shot in the leg, he could just as easily have been stabed in the leg or hit in the head with a frying pan. He wasn't injured by a gun, he was injured by another person. I would love to see law enforcement reduce the number of guns that criminals have access to but I'm tired of seeing them focus instead on disarming law abiding citizens. Gang bangers and crack dealers are walking around with fully automatic weapons and you anti-gun fanatics want to take hand guns away from people just trying to defend themselves.
bjean January 05, 2013 at 01:49 AM
Guns aren't the problem, it's the people pulling the trigger. And FYI, if a lunatic wants to kill, you can make a bomb out out pretty much any cleaning products in your house.
Lisa Caron January 05, 2013 at 04:44 AM
Last year handguns killed 48 people in Japan,8 in Great Britain,34 in Switzerland,52 in Canada,58 in Israel,21 in Sweden,42 in Germany and 10,728 in the United States.God Bless America.
Lisa Caron January 05, 2013 at 04:46 AM
then why aren't there more drive by spic and span bombings?
John S. January 05, 2013 at 12:12 PM
Bonnie-Jean, That is spoken like a true NRA advocate "Guns aren't the problem, it's the people pulling the trigger". The same would be true with this statement then, "Drugs aren't the problem it's the people that consume them". Anyone who does believe that there is a gun problem in this country is very out of touch.
bjean January 05, 2013 at 01:27 PM
That may be, but try breaking into my house. @ Lisa, you are a smart a**, @John, my home is safer than someone without personal protection. I'll keep my guns, good luck calling 911 see what happens in the time between the call and by the time the cops get there!
Semaj b January 05, 2013 at 08:08 PM
Lisa just shut up . No ones gonna make a bomb for a drive by that's just stupid .
bjean January 05, 2013 at 08:17 PM
Lol @ semaj b
Lisa Caron January 06, 2013 at 04:38 AM
@Semaj B That's the point dumbass! Bonnie-Jeans ill-logic that someone could kill you if they wanted to make a bomb out of household cleaners doesn't hold water.Guns kill people because they're easily accessible and and easy to transport and easy to pick someone off at a distance.Bonnie- Jean,how many people were killed in bombings in the US last year? Oh,that's right bombs are ILLEGAL.
Lisa Caron January 06, 2013 at 04:50 AM
@Bonnie-Jean,a 76 year old man where I live was just killed when kids kicked in his door while he was asleep with his 80 year old wife in bed.He got up and went to confront them with his gun,when he pointed it at them,they pulled their gun and shot him first.When caught,they said they weren't going to shoot but they shot him in self defense.More home break-ins end in tragedy when the home owners gun is wrestled away from the owner and used on them.How many children die each year when they find a loaded gun in their house? You're not as safe as you think you are.
Sean Ward January 07, 2013 at 04:45 PM
I can find you 7 countries where the per capita murder rate is 15 to 20 times higher than the US. The 7 that you have listed there are plenty of reasons their crime rates our lower than ours. One of the reasons is NOT gun legislation. AIDS kills 5 times more people worldwide than guns. Japan's suicide rate is 6 times higher than the United States per capita. Suicide is the 11th leading cause of death in the US. Murder is 15th. Lung Disease is 4th. Enjoy your cigarettes.
Sean Ward January 07, 2013 at 04:47 PM
Ah yes, the old "we weren't going to shoot him we swear" defense.
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 12:29 AM
Are you saying that we should just let people break into our homes because there is a chance that if we defend ourselves we might get hurt? Maybe we just let them rape our wife and children while they are there too? Accidental shootings kill an average of 600 deaths a year in the US. Five times more people die by choking each year than accidental gun discharge (2,500). Forty (40) times more people die by falling (25,000). Sixty (60) times more people die from poisoning (39,000) . Sixty-five times more people die in car accidents (42,000). Sadly the 600 gun accidents are the most preventable. Not by creating more gun laws but by more responsible gun storage and handling. Weapons should be locked up. They should not be stored loaded. Children should not be left alone where they can access guns (loaded or not). Training should be required to own one. You should have to test with some frequency to continue to be allowed to own one. Registered weapons should have to be inspected at least annually (if for no other reason than to make sure the registered owner still has it).
Lisa Caron January 08, 2013 at 03:38 AM
@sean,why is it when talking about the documented number of people who have been KILLED by bullets entering their bodies via GUNS do the NRA nuts start throwing out statistics on diseases?So because lung disease is the 4th cause of death in the US,all firearms should be legal...mmmm ya,Sean,that makes perfect sense.BTW,find me those 7 countries where guns kill more people than the U.S.Also FYI,I'd make commercial cigarettes illegal,grow your own tobacco and roll your own w/o all the chemicals,i'm all for that.But,you know the Big Tobacco lobby is almost as powerful as the NRA.They just keep paying off the politicians.
Lisa Caron January 08, 2013 at 03:52 AM
@ Sean,You prove my point,if 10,728 people were KILLED last year by handguns and only 600 were accidental,they are in fact murder weapons.Right so when someone breaks into your house,just tell them to wait a minute while you unlock your gun safe and get it out and load it.YOU'RE A LIAR! Don't tell me you lock your gun up at all times,unloaded when you're not using it BUT you have IN CASE someone breaks in.Here we go again,because people FALL,guns should be legal,because people die in car wrecks,guns should be legal.
Saber Walsh January 08, 2013 at 01:59 PM
Folks, PLEASE do your own fact checks and don't rely on the media: the violent crime rate in the UK is MUCH higher than ours (www.homeoffice.gov.uk, you can compare with www.fbi.gov). Nobody is going to be taking anybody's guns away, so we should get over that utopian dream.
Saber Walsh January 08, 2013 at 02:01 PM
Sadly, the drug comment is true. If we got at the users, the entire chain of violence behind them would dry up and we'd save HUGE dollars on the "War on Crime."
Saber Walsh January 08, 2013 at 02:29 PM
Joe Biden loves to quote the "most people are shot with their own guns" statistic, but that's only true for suicides -- NOT for a violent encounters like home invasions, robberies, assaults, etc., and this is all tracked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (check it out: www.cdc.gov) This was debunked by non other than CNN back in April when the White House was beginning to lay the foundation for their gun control policies. Nobody is telling you that you need to buy a gun or even look at one if you don't want to. What people are saying is, if there are people or things that are important enough for you to stop someone else with a weapon or die trying to stop them, you would want the right to do it with whatever would be appropriate for your situation. People, do your own fact checking and STOP looking to the media. There are just such huge "lying with statistics" initiatives under way, by BOTH sides. The "Australian experience," for example, of how gun violence went up after the 1997 ban that is being circulated as a letter from a "police officer," is a total fake. Stories like this may be true, but are not borne of large-scale data that show quite the opposite. Again, we are in the middle of a White House sponsored bar fight, and the "lying with statistics" means we ALL need to get smarter -- or otherwise, we are just what the White House wants: stupid lemmings who just follow what they are told by the media.
John S. January 08, 2013 at 06:06 PM
Saber, These are 2011 figures for gun deaths in the united states straight from the CDC. Accidental discharge 851 Suicide 19,766 Homicide 11,101 Undetermined Intent 222 The whole argument that you really need gun protection against an intruder is a very false statement in most parts of the united states. I have called the Peabody PD in the past for a B&E and there where about 5 cruisers here in under a minute. When the constitution went into effect in 1789 there were no telephones and police rode horses, I would bet that police response in the majority of the united states is very fast. These figures above do not include gun injuries for 2011 could not find that. Joe Biden might over exaggerate gun violence figures, but remember the NRA downplays them.
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 07:43 PM
It took almost 20 minutes for the police to arrive at Sandy Hook.
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 07:56 PM
Thank you for assuming I even have a gun. I never claimed I did. Secondly you do not know me. Do not presume to know what I do or do not do with anything I own. I am a former US Marine. I have adequate training on many types of firearms and in fact had the highest marksmanship scores. I do not like guns but I also don't live in fantasy land. Law enforcement fails regularly to keep illegal firearms out of the hands of criminals. Every gangbanger and drug dealer from Maine to California is armed. There are enough laws on the books to go out and get these guns off the street but that isn't happening. Until it does people have the right to defend themselves.
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 08:13 PM
I don't belong to the NRA. I'm quite sane. The leading cause of lung disease is smoke entering the body through smoking cigarettes. My point is that the number of people dying from guns is not statistically extraordinary and there are plenty of much bigger causes of unnatural death being caused by people doing plenty of things that are known to put life at risk. You efforts would be better served fighting against those. As requested here are 7 countries with higher fire-arm related death rates with the US at 10.2 per 100,000: El Salvador 50.36, Jamaica 47.44, Honduras 46.70, Guatemala 38.52, Swaziland 37.16, Colombia 28.11, Brazil 19.01.
John S. January 08, 2013 at 09:26 PM
Sean, That news story that came out about it taking 20 minutes to respond. The first officer was there 2 minutes after 911 call. Read the police log transcripts. http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/14/news/doc50cc0897adc1a203744261.txt?viewmode=default
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 09:42 PM
Have you actually read this transcipt? At 9:35:53 dispatch is talking to local police. It says nothing about when the caller contacted 911. I've called 911, it can take upwards of 30 seconds before the operator even connects you to local police. I see police on site at 9:39:20 assuming "Their coming at me" (nice grammar btw) was a cop talking. That's almost 4 minutes after the dispatch and who knows how long after the 911 call. Also this exposes another issue. Cops aren't usually willing to put their own lives in danger until they have adequate backup. I don't see any lines on this transcript that show cops in the building until 9:43 that's 8 full minutes after dispatch who knows how long after the 911 call and WAY TOO LATE TO SAVE 27 PEOPLE FROM BEING KILLED.
Rich F January 08, 2013 at 11:24 PM
The second amendment is not about hunting or home defense. It is about defending freedom It may be an outdated way of thinking and if it is then go for repealing/changing the second amendment. If you can’t get it done in this environment then Americans are not for it. "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Note the founders used the words arms not muskets. They had a good idea that arms would advance past the musket. I always hear from the “Then join a Militia”, I believe what the 2ndAmendment is saying the People should be armed so they can form a militia if the government become tyrannical. Again may be an outdated way of thinking but the founders made the Constitution difficult to change on purpose.
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 11:35 PM
Agreed Rich although I disagree with the idea that it may be outdated. In the last century there have been plenty of revolutions. Some justified some not. Some won some lost. It is naive to think that we've built a completely revolution-proof country here. There may come a time one day where government oversteps it's authority and where people may need to take matters into their own hands again. It's incredibly unlikely any time in the near future but like you say, the constitution was meant to survive the test of time. Look at some of the revolutions just in the past couple decades.
Sean Ward January 08, 2013 at 11:47 PM
Data on bomb deaths for last year are difficult to find data on. However, Harvard did a research study in 2005 compiling bomb related deaths and injuries on US soil between 1983 and 2002. The study's conclusion is that the ease of finding bomb making instructions on the internet and the readily available ingredients create significant risk. You ma'am are remarkably quick to call other people names where you yourself remain ignorant of the facts. In the United States, 36,110 bombing incidents, 5,931 injuries, and 699 deaths were reported. There were 21,237 (58.8%) explosive bombings, 6,185 (17.1%) incendiary bombings, 1,107 (3.1%) premature bombings, and 7,581 (21.0%) attempted bombings. For explosive bombings with known motives, 72.9% of injuries and 73.8% of deaths were because of homicide. For incendiary bombings with known motives, 68.2% of injuries were because of extortion and revenge, and 53.5% of deaths were due to homicide. Private residences accounted for 29.0% of incidents, 31.5% of injuries, and 55.5% of deaths. Government installations accounted for 4.4% of incidents but were the site of 12.7% of injuries and 25.5% of deaths. In bombings with known materials, nitrate-based fertilizers accounted for 36.2% of injuries and 30.4% of deaths, and smokeless powder and black powder accounted for 33.2% of injuries and 27.1% of deaths.

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