patching...
Welcome back, Patch Blogger!

City Council Still Moving Toward Ban on Pot Shops in Peabody

The City Council continued a public hearing Thursday on a zoning amendment to ban medical marijuana facilities in Peabody until Jan. 24. The delay is for the council to receive a necessary recommendation from the Planning Board first.

 

The City Council postponed its vote Thursday night on a ban of medical marijuana facilities in Peabody, but the outcome of the vote is all but assured.

Councilors initially leant their support to Mayor Ted Bettencourt in November, agreeing to send the issue along to the Planning Board for a recommendation on a zoning amendment that would prohibit dispensaries or growing facilities from setting up shop anywhere in the city.

The Planning Board voted Jan. 3 unanimously in support of a zoning ban, but the subsequent recommendation, which is needed for the council to act on, was too late to make it on for the council's Jan. 10 session.

Bettencourt and councilors again briefly discussed their concerns Thursday night of medical marijuana, which was voted into law by ballot question in November, and continued the hearing until Jan. 24.

Bettencourt said he has "serious concerns" about the new law and still has yet to receive any information or guidelines from the state, which will be regulating the pot shops.

"I understand there is some value to medical marijuana, but I feel that this type of [treatment] should be done at a medical facility," Bettencourt said -- not where the average citizen can just drop in to a corner pot shop. "I’m hoping that it’s going to be very restrictive, but we don’t know at this point."

His concerns include what the rules and regulations will be, who will write them, how they will be enforced, whether cities and towns will have any local control, will there be criminal background checks on facility owners and employees, doctor/patient relationships -- there are no answers to those questions at this time.

In the absence of those answers, and with the city's health director, police chief and the District Attorney all opposed to the law, Bettencourt says it's in the best interest of Peabody to not allow marijuana facilities in the city.

"I think this is the right thing for Peabody and I’m asking for your support on this," he said Thursday.

Since the passage of the ballot measure two months ago, city councilors and the mayor have received calls from multiple individuals interested in setting up shop in Peabody. Under the law, such facilities would be nonprofit operations rather than commercial businesses.

Bettencourt argued that potential shop operators are doing their research and due diligence now in order to move quickly once state regulations and licenses are finally available. He wants to be proactive and send those startups on their way when that happens.

Only Ward 4 Councilor Bob Driscoll voted against supporting Bettencourt's request in November, arguing a ban was premature without seeing what state health officials would do. Driscoll offer any comment on the issue Thursday.

Ward 6 Councilor Barry Sinewitz again criticized the new law. He argues it's really about moving toward legalizing marijuana in Massachusetts rather than providing pain relief to patients with debilitating illnesses.

Sinewitz makes that argument because pharmaceutical pill forms containing the same or similar chemicals as in marijuana have been around for years. They are controlled and legally prescribed by a doctor. One common trade name is Marinol.

Sinewitz said he spoke from personal experience with a family member who had cancer -- he even added that the pills seemed to help with the pain.

Marinol and other similar pharmaceuticals aren't exactly the same as smoking marijuana, however -- they are less complex substances than the actual plant -- and patients in favor of traditional pot say the drugs are not as effective at relieving pain.

Related Topics: Marijuana, Medical marijuana, Pot Shops, and Zoning Ban

Saber Walsh

9:54 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Anyone who wants to delay this waiting for what the state is going to do is a total idiot. "Pending" is the watchword as the pols are waiting for their lobbyists to give them the verbiage they need.

This is still considered to be an illegal substance under Federal law. Sinewitz is totally right -- the "pro-pot lobby" seems very well financed by some very entrepreneurial, scary people who have successfully used "our poor, sick grandmothers" as a way to wedge an unconstitutional move (state attempting to relax something that has stronger federal regulations.

Instead of debating this issue, we should 1) just bad these "clinics" all together in Peabody, and 2) take active steps to rout out those pols who have been accepting donations from these lobbies.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:04 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Unfortunately there ARE a very many poor, sick people with cancer, many of them grandmothers, who could benefit from this plant as a medicine and a pain reliever. We don't deny them prescription pain killers like oxycontin and morphine when they need it, so why the ban on this milder medication? It is not even constitutional for there to be a federal law prohibiting something a state has legalized. Most people are now aware that the hysterical hype put out in the 50s and 60s about the dangers of this substance is simply not true. The council should remember that the majority of the voters are just fine with having a clinic within the city limits.

Comment_arrow

FlyingTooLow

2:18 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

@ Sylvie...

Your comments are excellent.
Thank you for sharing.

Comment_arrow

Bob Croce

3:44 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

@Sylvie: if communities can ban the sale of alcohol, which they do, they can ban -- through zoning -- the sale of pot. Again, this isn't about the drug itself. It's about the fact that this is not being regulated, and thus poses a potential safety issue. It isn't about grand ma, who can get medical marijuana at CVS. http://bit.ly/Sp4cJ6

rationalhuman

9:54 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Somewhat more than 54% of Peabody voters cast ballots in favor of Question 3. But the City's Police Chief, Health Director, and the DA join with all but one City Councilor and the Mayor in opposition. Therefore, medical cannabis will be banned to the greatest extent possible in Peabody.

That's democracy in action.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Bob Croce

1:13 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Yes. It's called protecting citizens against a law that is so vague that it potentially causes a serious public safety issue. Hats off to our elected and appointed leaders for taking a courageous stand here.

Most people I know who voted for it thought it would be dispensed in a mainstream pharmacy and you would need a qualified physician's prescription. Now that I tell them that isn't the case, many of them say they wish they could change their vote. Nice job by the pot lobby to deceive people into thinking this was all about helping people with legitimate pain.
http://eyeonpeabody.com/2013/01/11/peabody-wont-bogart-those-pot-shops-and-thats-the-right-move-by-our-city-officials/

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:52 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Is that what it's called, Bob? Maybe the next time you vote for something that you want the city will say no to protect you. Would you take your hat off to that too? By the way, you DO need a qualified physician's prescription to get medical marijuana.

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:52 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Way to go, rational. Why do we have votes on things anyway?

Saber Walsh

10:08 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

If we were really "rational humans," we would be demanding that the NIH sponsor trials with an inhalation form containing the active components of marijuana that could undergo appropriate safety and efficacy studies. In other words, if Marinol isn't enough, then give our patients something that is, and that we can advise them about other medications they are taking.

Legislating "safe and effective" use of a product by ballot just goes to show how much money is involved here. Marijuana is NOT safe for all patients -- some of its compounds are very highly bound to proteins and can affect metabolism of some very important drugs.

So do you want us to make available something that has no quality standards, no safety and/or efficacy studies, no drug interaction or outcome studies, is a violation of federal law to grow/distribute/use, and tell our fellow citizens, with a straight face, "this is a good thing!"

And in the meantime, when grandma decides that this marijuana pain hype might have something to it and decides to give it a try, and the family finds out later that she was on a blood thinner that interacts with at least two metabolites, will you be there at the funeral to talk about how great your democracy is?

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

This would only be prescribed by a doctor, and therefore the patient's other meds would be taken into consideration. Not all medicine comes in pill form, nor should it. There are approximately 30 different compounds in this plant that act on concert on the body. Isolating one or two does not give as good an analgesic effect. There have been studies done on marijuana by the truckload and so far, no one has died of an over dose and no one has committed a violent act from being high on pot. If we can live with the drug alcohol and all of its negative side effects, then putting up with pot will be a breeze!

#getthefactsonpot

10:09 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Great job Mayor Bettencourt! Go against what your people voted for. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was a democracy. Can u ban liquor stores and prescription drugs too then? Far more damaging.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:55 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Good comment, getthefacts. The next line is for Bob who replied to you. Bob, the local community made it's wishes known in the last election when they passed Question 3. Public sentiment is not with you on this. The pressure is not from outsiders, our community is in support of this.

Comment_arrow

Bob Croce

3:31 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

But Sylvie it's not that black and white, since I would bet you anything that Peabody voters would have overwhelmingly rejected Question 3 had they known what we know now. This thing is unregulated, and anyone can open one of these dispensaries. If you were to poll those who voted for it, they'd tell you too that most people thought it would be dispensed only through a physician's prescription and through a well-regulated pharmacy.

With this law, you don't need to be a trained pharmacist, and any person off the street can open a dispensary. I am not against legalization, but Peabody is trying to rebuild its reputation as a great community on a number of fronts right now. Having pot shops here is only going to hinder those efforts.

I also guarantee you that, if you polled the citizens of Peabody, they would overwhelmingly support the Mayor's request that we change the zoning and ban these pot shops, once listening to Bettencourt's logic for doing so.

Look at what happened last night during the hearing at City Hall. Not ONE citizen showed up to speak out against changing the zoning. If they were so upset with the Mayor disrespecting their vote, why wasn't Wigging Auditorium packed with dissenters? http://bit.ly/Sp4cJ6

FlyingTooLow

10:18 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

I smoked my first joint in December, 1967, at the tender age of 21.

Now, a mere 45 years later, I still smoke pot. I have never 'graduated' to 'harder' drugs.

I am living proof that prohibitionist propaganda is a fallacy...a blatant lie.

The worst experience I had with marijuana was spending 5 years in Federal Prison for a pot offense.

And, I am as harmless as a Beagle puppy.

I wrote about the escapades that led to my 'vacation.' I admit, I had a great time...no one was injured, no one was killed...there were no victims. We were Americans pursuing happiness in our own way...harming no one nor their property.

The book: Shoulda Robbed a Bank

I would be honored by your review. It's available at Amazon.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Saber Walsh

11:34 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

And there are many 5PPD smokers who don't get lung cancer, but many more who are dead. That's why we study what is safe and effective.

Here's what we need:
- Find out which of the active components of pot are effective against pain and the various ailments that people want to use it for
- Make formulation that can deliver it without fear of carcinogenesis, COPD, exposure to CO, or other lung damage from burning the active leaf plus the crap that the growers spray on this stuff
- Studies that show us how safe each of the components are, how much gets onto important proteins that carry drugs that can kill you if they get knocked off, etc.
- The same studies that show how effective the stuff is, how often it should be safely dosed for normal/renal/hepatic patients, etc.
- A way for users to self-declare "unfit to drive/operate machinery" so that users can take themselves out of the RMV system when using this stuff plus whatever "washout period" is needed to prevent DUI violations
- And about 500 other things -- but all doable if we wanted it.

So, you ask, why is this all about "pro-pot" instead of "we need better medicines?!?" Why use the "democratic process" and emotional blackmail to open the door?

If all the money funded for lobbyists were used to lobby for REAL solutions, we'd be on our way to maybe really important breakthroughs. People point at the now-almost-dead drug companies, yet there seems to be more evil in their void.

Follow... the... money

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:17 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Big Pharma stands to make a lot of money off of a marijuana extract pill. That's who is really behind all this pot banning hoopla. Most medical marijuana patients use a vaporizer to get the essential oils from the plants into their lungs. That avoids the tars from smoking, so we don't really need to worry about that. As far as unfit to drive, well that will be covered under the same legislation as alcohol and prescription drugs, wouldn't it?

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:59 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Yours is a sad story and a sad commentary on the mass paranoia about pot. You have my sympathy for the pain you were put through for indulging in a harmless passtime. Thank goodness it seems people are finally realizing what a non-existant boogey-man all this fear of pot has been. They say that culture changes one death at a time. We just gotta wait em out, man.

Comment_arrow

FlyingTooLow

3:49 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

@ Sylvie...

'...culture changes one death at a time...'

I've never heard it put that, but, it seems to be true.
Thank you.

Saber Walsh

10:18 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Yup, the pro-pot bloggers are out.

Fellow Peabody Patchers, we should have a "So You Say You're From Peabody?!?" quiz to smoke check bloggers.

Maybe the Editor could come up with a separate column and we can post the questions.... but not the answers!!!

For example: What was the original location of the Revolutionary War monument located on Washington Street?

Reply
Comment_arrow

FlyingTooLow

10:53 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

@Saber Walsh...

I may not be a 'Peabody Patcher,' but, I am an American citizen with the right to free speech. Or, is that something else you would like regulate?

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:18 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I know, why don't we have a public vote on it? Oh yeah, we already did!

FlyingTooLow

10:19 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

In 2009, 26,000 deaths from prescription medicines.

Deaths caused by marijuana...not a single one in recorded history.

Reply

Saber Walsh

10:29 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Totally false. The Navy recently reminded all aboard that the Zero Tolerance Policy was written with the blood of fourteen sailors who were members of the aircrew of an EA-6B Prowler as well as deck hands. Fourteen aircraft were also damaged in the fiery explosion.

Everybody knows about this incident, and there are many, many others that have been published and are well described in the media.

The 2009 data you cite is from overdoses of legal AND illegal drugs, and published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Again, the bloggers are out...

Reply
Comment_arrow

FlyingTooLow

11:05 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

@Saber Walsh....

I stand corrected...there were more deaths than I thought:

"Drugs exceeded motor vehicle accidents as a cause of death in 2009, killing at least 37,485 people nationwide, according to preliminary data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Fueling the surge in deaths are prescription pain and anxiety drugs that are potent, highly addictive and especially dangerous when combined with one another or with other drugs or alcohol. Among the most commonly abused are OxyContin, Vicodin, Xanax and Soma. One relative newcomer to the scene is Fentanyl, a painkiller that comes in the form of patches and lollipops and is 100 times more powerful than morphine."

Again, unlike marijuana...with a body count of zero.

We can debate statistics until hell freezes over. The bottom line is 'freedom of the individual.'

Please, try to wrap yourself around that concept.

Comment_arrow

J

12:30 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Here's a link to the Navy's official investigation report. If you read pages 70-80 you will see that the pilot of that flight did NOT have marijuana in his system. He was taking non-prescription cold medicine and aspirin. Several members of the flight crew did test positive for marijuana, however the pilot did NOT. So the body count is again down to none.

http://www.jag.navy.mil/library/investigations/uss%20nimitz%2027%20may%2081.pdf

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:19 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

No alcohol at all in those sailors' systems? Come on.

#potfacts101

10:36 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Saber Walsh....are you a doctor? I am. Not sure where you are getting the "medical" facts about interaction with medication, but you are totally way off base. In fact, all of your "stats" are. What does 14 sailors dying have to do with pot? And the zero tolerance policy? Come on...wake up. Good try though!

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:21 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Looks like J did google it, Saber, and the PILOT, which is who was in control, was on cold medicine. Maybe we can get that banned.

Harry Birmingham

11:36 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

If an when if ever pot is legal for medical use then patients should ask or be told by their doctors if it is ok to use and vice versa.. I think that most forget is the interaction of the r/x's the patients take is the answer to their use of the marihuana for relief of their sickness or mental problems.
If you use marihuana now for more than occasional use you may be hiding a thing that could be detrimental to your health when its finally discovered.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Saber Walsh

12:05 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

This is good advice. Only thing to keep in mind is that most health professionals right now are super-afraid of regulatory agencies, which have been flexing their muscles in unprecedented ways. Giving advice about something the DEA has categorized as illegal might not be something your local doc or pharmacist would be all that willing to do... they MIGHT, or MIGHT NOT.

Candidly, nobody in their right minds would even acknowledge the availability of "medical marijuana" given that they would be engaged in aiding and abetting under federal law -- which means much more than a loss of licensure.

So if Peabody were to license these shops, I'd suppose they'd be doing the same, so the Mayor and most of the City Council are SPOT ON!

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

2:22 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Or you may be just getting high for fun. I'm wondering if it's really just fun that some people would like to ban?

Jean Ahearn

12:04 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

I don't see a problem with medical pot. We now have pharmacies where people with a prescription can get the medicine their doctor feels is the right medicine for them - medicines that are not necessarily safe for all patients, but medicines that the doctor feels would be safe for them. The use of medical pot would, and I think should, be treated the same way - if a physician feels that it is the right medicine for his/her patient, than that patient should have access to the drug with a proper prescription.

We have lots of bars and liquor stores in Peabody and anyone 21 or over can get access to this substance, which I feel is a more dangerous substance, and we all know has been the cause of many fatal accidents over the years. But yet, no-one complains about access to this substance.

For the record, I do not smoke pot or drink alcohol. I have tried both, but I really don't like using either substance. (They are not healthy, cost a lot of money, and I don't like how they lower my guard & perception). And I am not a pro-pot blogger, or have been listening to the "pro-pot lobby", nor do I feel I am a "total idiot". I am someone who can think for herself and just so happens to think that if someone in pain can get some relief from smoking pot, who am I to judge.

I am one of the 54% who voted for this law, and the whole purpose of voting is to see what the majority of citizens want to act accordingly. I do not feel it is appropriate to ban medical pot in Peabody.

Reply
Comment_arrow

FlyingTooLow

12:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

@Jean Ahearn...

Bravo!
Well said.

Bob Croce

1:08 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Peabody gets no benefit, and likely a lot of the problems that would come from this. Banning it is the right move my our elected officials. If they can ban the sale of alcohol in some surrounding communities, we can ban the sale of pot. Just ease on down the road. i'm sure there are other cities who want these pot shops.
Here's some more on how I really feel on this: http://eyeonpeabody.com/2013/01/11/peabody-wont-bogart-those-pot-shops-and-thats-the-right-move-by-our-city-officials/

Reply

Mr. Rotten

2:23 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

How's this... Peabody gets no benefit from a methadone clinic either!!! I just bought a house in West Peabody off rt.1 back in September, I was totally clueless to a methadone clinic being so close to my home with my wife and 2 daughters. Now would you prefer a pot dispensary which will help people with chronic pain ect? Or a methadone clinic which is a meet, greet, swap location for current and previous drug addicts? Pot is not processed in a factory it is grown from the dirt. I don't smoke pot myself but I'd rather pot than methadone and all the junkies that come with it where I live. Maybe they will ban it FOR NOW. its inevitable that one day in the near future you will be able to walk into your local corner store and buy it.

Reply

Patriots Fan

4:32 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

This city council and Mayor disgust me. The people voted this into law for a reason. We need more forward thinking leaders in this city, vote out these clowns!

Reply

M

4:34 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Anyone or thing that attempts to ban pot is operating in fear bred from ignorance, or its for financial gain. Period.

Reply

Saber Walsh

6:53 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Just for the record about why the Prowler accident was notable... The JAG citation above is absolutely correct and is a good reference for the facts about the crash and the pilot. What's missing is the context: flight deck crew during carrier recovery operations are largely there for safety, and the Prowler was in trouble. When lives are at stake, you need wverything

Reply

Saber Walsh

6:58 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Just for the record about why the Prowler accident was notable... The JAG citation above is absolutely correct and is a good reference for the facts about the crash and the pilot. What's missing is the context: flight deck crew during carrier recovery operations are largely there for safety, and the Prowler was in trouble. When lives are at stake, you need everything you've got, and the fire caused by the Prowler required just that. Men died that day, many burned to death... so yes, let's cover the facts with misdirection, derision, lies, and what the heck, Grandma stopped giving you cash anyways.

Reply

Jane Smith

5:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

About 40 other communities have banned the sale of pot. As Peabody residents, we also have the right to ban the sale of pot.
I bet many of these pro pot posters are outsiders trying to bring pot shops into Peabody for their own benefit. Beware of sheep in wolves clothing!

Reply

Sylvie

5:50 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@Jane Nothing could be further from the truth. We are Peabody residents, part of the over 50% of voters who agreed with question 3 on the last ballot. Medical marijuana is an idea whose time has come. Let's stop all the fear mongering about something which is basically pretty harmless and also beneficial to cancer sufferers. Signed: Not a pot shop entrepreneur, nor a sheep in wolves clothing, although I can't imagine what that kind of sheep would be trying to accomplish.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jane Smith

7:00 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@Sylvie. We are not fear mongering. It is a quality of life issue. The law is allowing anyone, even without any medical training, to set up pot shops. Until the law is better defined, we need to preserve our quality of life. Forty other communities have banned pot shops. Those of us in Peabody have the right to preserve our quality of life, just as those other communities did.
We realize there are big profits to be made by these pot shops. They are going to do and say anything to set up shop to made a profit off of us at the expense of our quality of life.

Sylvie

10:27 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@ Jane It is a quality of life issue. People should be able to access the kind of medication deemed best for their illnesses, as determined by their doctors. This will maintain the best quality of life for the seriously ill. More than half of those of us in Peabody who voted in the last election made it clear that A pot shop would be acceptable. It's not likely that there will be one on every street corner like package stores seem to be. There are big revenues to be made by any establishment that sells drugs or alcohol. I don't know what kind of training people would need in order to fill a prescription but perhaps that could be looked into. There are also big tax revenues for the city from these businesses. If a shop were allowed on route 1 it shouldn't negatively impact residential neighborhoods with an excess of traffic.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Bob Croce

11:25 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

But Sylvie, they are being set up as non-profits, meaning there are no tax revenues to be had here by Peabody.

Sylvie

11:38 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@ Bob Thanks for the update. I didn't know that. That's too bad, tax revenues are one of the benefits of legalized marijuana. Would the shop be run by a charitable organization? Would there be any property tax at least? This is disappointing news.

Reply

Bob Croce

1:10 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

No property taxes are collected by a city if a non-profit owns it. Non-profit does not necessarily mean a "charity" in the traditional sense. Anyone can create a non-profit, and there are no real limits on how much the execs for these non-profits can make. All you are basically saying to the government is that you do not have any profits once all the expenses are paid, including salaries.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

1:32 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Oh, thanks for clearing that up, Bob. I still think it's a humane step in treating people, mainly cancer patients, who can benefit greatly from it. I believe our society would see many more upsides than downs as a result of more local medical marijuana facilities.

Comment_arrow

Jane Smith

3:00 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

@Bob, excellent points! Many of these establishments pushing the pot shops are only nonprofits in name with the plans to stuff their pockets with profits with little regard to the community. Peabody will not receive a cent in any tax revenue.
I feel for those who need medical marijuana to treat their pain. But these cancer patients deserve to be given their marijuana meds in a clean, medically approved establishment, not by a shop on Route 1 run by a bunch of hacks, who do not have the medical expertise nor can prove the marijuana they are providing is not laced with other things.

Sylvie

3:59 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@Jane & Bob, I did some research into this non-profit issue and the reason they are run as such is because to sell for profit would be considered a drug trafficking offense under Federal law. A non-profit dispensary would be required to have financial transparency and their records must be readily available to law enforcement personnel to prove that they are charging only what is needed to cover costs. It is the perception of law enforcement as it relates to a shop's compliance with state law that dictates whether or not they would be allowed. If any expenses seem inflated, such as wages or salaries, the dispensary could be charged with drug trafficking.

Wages and salaries will of course be subject to all Federal, State and local taxes just like paychecks everywhere. With all this scrutiny directed at these facilities, it seems unlikely that there will be any gouging of prices or stuffing of pockets.

I can't just write off the cancer patients and their pain by saying they can have their medication when the shops are squeeky clean medical establishments. When is that going to happen if we don't even allow them to operate at all? I say, lets get the ball rolling, get the patients their meds, and begin to set standards for dispensaries to look like doctor's offices if that's what we need to feel comfortable about it. Although that might raise the cost of operations and as a result raise the cost of the medication.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Bob Croce

9:28 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

But Sylvie, because of this non-profit status, Peabody still will not be able to collect property taxes, which means there is no direct benefit to the city. Property taxes are the primary means for funding a city's budget in MA.

I hear you about the issue of easing peoples' suffering. But the point most are missing here is that the organizers of this law have put so few details around it that it's scaring off communities everywhere. This is why I keep insisting that many of the 54% who voted for it in Peabody, are against it now. There are very few details as to rules and regulations right now. That is what is scaring off cities and towns.
http://www.eyeonpeabody.com

Jane Smith

6:53 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@Sylvie, we already have squeaky clean establishments that provide drugs, and they are called pharmacies. The pot should should be provide by a pharmacist, who has had years of medical training, not by some hack running a questionable pot shop on Route 1.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

8:50 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

So, Jane, how do we get the drug stores to provide medical marijuana? Any ideas?

Comment_arrow

Jane Smith

9:27 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

You get the government to regulate it like any other drug. You don't allow drug dealers to set up hack pot shops on Route 1 where they are allowed to sell marijuana traced with anything to unsuspecting cancer patients. Lets take another drug that I know of cancer patients taking, such as OxyContin. We don't have OxyContin shops on Route 1 for cancer patients. OxyContin is provided through a pharmacy, so why don't we do the same for marijuana?

Jim Marrs

7:04 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Typical politicians imposing their will instead of following the will of the vast majority of the people who voted. Proves once again that you can't trust any politicians.

Reply

Jane Smith

7:13 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@Jim Those of us in Peabody don't want the pot shops! We are not politicians, just normal residents that deserve to have the same quality of life as the other 40 communities that voted against the pot shops in their community. I am tired of outsiders trying to dump their crap on us!

Reply

Sylvie

8:48 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@Jane Those of us in Peabody do want pot shops and the medical marijuana that cancer patients can finally get to ease their suffering. It's why those of us in Peabody voted for it! You don't speak for the majority, no matter how many times you try to claim that you do.

Reply

Jane Smith

9:08 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@Sylvie, that vote was to allow communities the opportunity to decide if they want pot shops. Our community has decided that we don't want pot shops. Stop pushing your outsider crap on us! Peabody has the right to have the same quality of life as those other 40 communities that decided to ban pot shops. I love our city! It would be really sad to see our city go the way of pot shops on every corner, as has happened in some places in southern California.
Keep Peabody strong! Peabody Pride!

Reply

Jean Ahearn

3:46 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I'm not sure how Jane came to the conclusion that "our community has decided that we don't want pot shops" or that everyone who is commenting in favor of the law is "pushing your outsider crap". And I'm not sure why Bob and some others are assuming that we didn't understand the question when we voted in favor of it, but for some reason now understand and are now against it. As I stated before, I am one of the 54% of Peabody residents who voted for the law, and I understood that could easily lead to an establishment selling pot (to those with a prescription only) in Peabody, and I still see nothing wrong it (just as I see nothing wrong the pharmacy down the street selling drugs that would be illegal to have without a prescription).

With only 35 shops allowed in the whole state (and no more than 5 in a county), there could not be a "pot shop" on every corner.

And if we don't allow a shop in our city, any patient with a prescription from our City would then be legally able to grow their own supply! Although there are regulations on growing one's own (can't be more than a 60-day supply, has to be locked up), I would think you would prefer a government-regulated facility selling to patients with prescriptions than the possibility of your neighbor growing it next door.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Jane Smith

4:23 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

@Jean, you are clearly an outsider because if you lived in Peaboy you would know that very few people want pot shops in this community. We have a right as a community to do want we want, and many of us in Peabody don't want pot shops in our community.
Any drug dealer would be able to set up a hack pot shop without any regulation on the pot they sell. They would be able to lace the pot with anything, and sell it as "medicine" to unsuspecting cancer patients. That is why we are so against this law!
If the patient has a bad reaction with what is laced, they are on their own because no regulation on the quality of marijuana being provided has been set up.
Secondly, the law is set up to increase the number of marijuana dispensaries each year, 35 this year, 45 next year. This is how the marijuana lobby in Californa got a marijuna dispensary (aka pot shop) on every corner in some communities. They told communities there would only be a certain number of pot shops allowed. Once they got into a community they were able to expand once the law changed to allow more pot shops. They are trying to do the same here.
We, as Peabody residents, deserve to have the same quality of life as the other 40 communities that voted against pot shops here in Massachusetts. Don't let these outsiders destroy our city!
Stay Strong Peabody! Peabody Pride!

Comment_arrow

Sylvie

10:18 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

Good points, Jean. Nice to hear a voice of reason.

Jean Ahearn

7:34 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Jane, I have lived in Peabody since 1985. Hardly an outsider. I have talked to quite a few people on this issue and find that it seems to go along with the way we voted: a little more than half were in favor.

I also have great pride in Peabody and I respect our government officials. All the policies have not been put in place yet. And not "any drug dealer" would be able to set up a shop - there are rules and regulations. Medicine is regulated and that will included medical marijuana, and as you know, it will require a prescription.

Reply

Jane Smith

5:50 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

@Jean, right now there are no regulations. According to the law, anyone can open a pot shop, and that includes drug dealers. Under the law they would be able to sell marijuana laced with anything in these pot shops. What do you say to the cancer patient that ends up with a bad reaction with the laced contents?
There is no requirement on the quality and purity of the pot.
Right now there is also no oversight as to what would happen if they gave pot to someone without a prescription, so basically these pot shops would not be held accountable for giving pot to the general public.
Remember you can't threaten them with losing their medical license because they have none to begin with!
Once one pot shop is allowed, they will push for more in the community, as what happen in southern California. Don't even allow one in.
The marijuana lobby is very well financed, and they play on all of our concerns for the ill.
Don't let the marijuana lobby play on your sympathy. I know first hand of patients successfully handling debilitating pain by using pain medications, such as OxyContin, provided through a pharmacy.
There will be no tax benefit for Peabdy because they have the nonprofit status.
Need I go on as to how we don't need pot shops in Peabody?
Forty other communities have votes against pot shops. We have the right to also vote against pot shops.
Stay Strong Peabody! Peabody Pride!

Reply
Comment_arrow

Sylvie

10:30 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

According to the mass Secretary of State's website, there are 39 cities and 312 towns in Massachusetts. If, as you claim, 40 of them have chosen a ban, that amounts to 11% of the towns, hardly a majority.
I have also been a resident of peabody since 1989. I have volunteered for our youth football organization and sent a son through the public school system and saw him graduate from Peabody Veteran's Memorial High School as an MVP. No one has more Peabody Pride than myself and the parents I was privileged to know during that time. Most of us are in support of this new law because it is time for people to get the medication they need.
We need these dispensaries because the medical establishment and the federal government absolutely refuse to allow medical marijuana. There is currently no other way for people to get the relief this medication provides.
Peabody has always been a town of the working people. Stay strong indeed, Peabody, and support what the People of Peabody have voted for!

FlyingTooLow

10:48 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

I copied the below comment from another website. I think the American veteran who wrote this sums it up very well:

"I am a disabled Army Veteran and smoke marijuana strictly for medical purposes. I never smoked before I broke my back in the military and it hasen't been a gateway to anything. I started smoking because of my cauda equina syndrome.
I had a herniated disk in my lower back that compressed the nerves at the lower end of my spine (cauda equina nerves). The doctors couldn't prevent permanent damage, so I am left with permanent pain that is so severe that it leads to vomiting on a consistant basis without my medacine (marijuana). The doctors prescribed me morphine, oxycodone, oxymorphone, oxycotton, hydromorphone, hydrocodone, etc... All of the above named meda...
cines made me useless, I hardly knew what was happening around me. On top of that, they didnt help with the pain or the vomiting from the pain. I felt like bugs were crawling under my skin.
After complaining about this for a while, friends and family handed me cannabis. I was reluctant at first, due to the stigma that goes along with it. After I gave it a try, I realized that it was far and away a better solution than any of the above named DRUGS. I had none of the issues with cannabis that I had with all those other PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS. I can function and carry on with my life. Marijuana has made me a better person and a far more functional parent and husband."

Reply

Leave a comment